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2012 MLS Draft: Live Thread, Chat And Updates

BALTIMORE - JANUARY 13: Fifth selection Zac MacMath of the Philadelphia Union poses for a photo with fans during the 2011 MLS SuperDraft on January 13 2011 at the Baltimore Convention Center in Baltimore Maryland. (Photo by Ned Dishman/Getty Images)

The 2012 MLS SuperDraft starts at 12 pm EST today, with television coverage starting at that time on ESPN2 (also available through ESPN's web service ESPN3). The Philadelphia Union have two natural SuperDraft selections, the 13th overall pick (13th in the first round) and the 32nd overall pick (13th in the second round), plus the 35th overall pick (16th in the second round) from Sporting Kansas City, received as part of the Shavar Thomas trade in 2010.

Feel free to talk about the SuperDraft, any rumors surrounding it, the Union and otherwise in this live SuperDraft thread. The Brotherly Game will be publishing pick posts during the SuperDraft, but will also update this post itself (below) with who the Union choose during the draft. If any trades happen, this post will be updated with those transactions as well. The current rumors are that Danny Mwanga is on the trade block and that the Union are interested in the New England Revolution's third overall pick.

13 - Chandler Hoffman, ULCA, Forward

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The future starts today

I guess it makes sense in a “weak” draft class to try and get a high pick (NE 3rd overall) to get the best talent but is trading Mwanga the answer? I know there has to be some behind the scenes shit going on but to me he still looks like he has the potential to be something special.

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by Talon Talent on Jan 12, 2012 11:41 AM EST reply actions  

http://msn.foxsports.com/foxsoccer/mls/story/kenny-cooper-trade-portland-timbers-new-york-red-bulls-2012-mls-draft-011212

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by Talon Talent on Jan 12, 2012 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

couple of reports on twitter

talking about Agudelo on his way out after Cooper trade. Might not be within MLS though.

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by Talon Talent on Jan 12, 2012 11:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Here we go!

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by Talon Talent on Jan 12, 2012 12:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Brek Shea really is ugly as hell.

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by ayydamn on Jan 12, 2012 12:01 PM EST reply actions  

but damn is he good

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by Talon Talent on Jan 12, 2012 12:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Very so.

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by ayydamn on Jan 12, 2012 12:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Expect trades.

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by Scott Kessler on Jan 12, 2012 12:05 PM EST reply actions  

there we go

Andrew Wenger, 1st pick to Montreal

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by Talon Talent on Jan 12, 2012 12:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Impact take Andrew Wenger. Surprising.

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by Scott Kessler on Jan 12, 2012 12:07 PM EST reply actions  

Duck Fook.

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by Justin F. on Jan 12, 2012 12:08 PM EST up reply actions  

why do some have wenger listed as a forward, and others a defender?

by Rhayes on Jan 12, 2012 12:07 PM EST reply actions  

Played defense then offense.

Won awards at both positions.

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by Scott Kessler on Jan 12, 2012 12:09 PM EST up reply actions  

announced as a defender though

which spot you think he’ll play more?

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by Talon Talent on Jan 12, 2012 12:10 PM EST up reply actions  

i dont think he is going to play defense, apparently Montreal need help on the attack, and he prefers to play in the midfield.

by Rhayes on Jan 12, 2012 12:11 PM EST up reply actions  

i think he goes to houston with ching for hainault

by dangeroo on Jan 12, 2012 12:12 PM EST up reply actions  

He wants to play midfield.

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by Scott Kessler on Jan 12, 2012 12:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Mattocks to Vancouver Whitecaps

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by Justin F. on Jan 12, 2012 12:12 PM EST reply actions  

Mattocks to vancouver

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by Talon Talent on Jan 12, 2012 12:12 PM EST reply actions  

Thinking Rowe to the Rev.

Don’t know who else would go at #3.

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by Scott Kessler on Jan 12, 2012 12:14 PM EST reply actions  

thats who it is

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by Talon Talent on Jan 12, 2012 12:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Boom.

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by Scott Kessler on Jan 12, 2012 12:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Kelyn Rowe to New England Revolution

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by Justin F. on Jan 12, 2012 12:17 PM EST reply actions  

Mwanga to the Rev in a trade for the third overall pick did not happen. Rumor stays a rumor thus far.

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by Scott Kessler on Jan 12, 2012 12:18 PM EST reply actions  

good

It’s to early to give up on him. he just needs some direction

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by Talon Talent on Jan 12, 2012 12:19 PM EST up reply actions  

if you get picks 4 through 9 right....

then i want tonights lottery numbers from you to!

by dangeroo on Jan 12, 2012 12:19 PM EST reply actions  

mwanga

mwanga will be traded for the all important allocation money!

by dangeroo on Jan 12, 2012 12:19 PM EST reply actions  

Toronto needs a CB and MF help...

Look at Hedges, Silva or Jean-Baptise.

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by Scott Kessler on Jan 12, 2012 12:20 PM EST reply actions  

thats cheating…. you only get 1 guess

by dangeroo on Jan 12, 2012 12:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey now.

I called him as the midfield option.

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by Scott Kessler on Jan 12, 2012 12:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Silva

damn you are on point.

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by Talon Talent on Jan 12, 2012 12:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Luis Silva to TFC

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by Justin F. on Jan 12, 2012 12:21 PM EST reply actions  

Is there any height available in this draft?

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by PraiseMartyMoose on Jan 12, 2012 12:22 PM EST reply actions  

At CB:

Berry, Hedges, AJB.

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by Scott Kessler on Jan 12, 2012 12:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Really don’t think the Mwanga trade will happen.

by Julian Brown on Jan 12, 2012 12:22 PM EST reply actions  

Not seeing anything of value happening right now.

Mwanga should stay.

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by Scott Kessler on Jan 12, 2012 12:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Not even guessing for Chivas.

They’re bad.

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by Scott Kessler on Jan 12, 2012 12:25 PM EST reply actions  

Chivas takes Casey Townsend.

They actually did well with their pick.

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by Scott Kessler on Jan 12, 2012 12:26 PM EST reply actions  

why is Hoffman falling?

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by Talon Talent on Jan 12, 2012 12:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Based upon teams with personnel tastes different than him.

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by Scott Kessler on Jan 12, 2012 12:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Do the Earthquakes reach defensively (Hedges, Polak, Estridge) or go for DeLeon?

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by Scott Kessler on Jan 12, 2012 12:28 PM EST reply actions  

awww

streaks over. lol

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by Talon Talent on Jan 12, 2012 12:30 PM EST up reply actions  

:(

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by Scott Kessler on Jan 12, 2012 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Earthquakes select Sam Garza

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by Justin F. on Jan 12, 2012 12:30 PM EST reply actions  

SJE take Sam Garza. Don’t like the fact that @MLS tweeted it before he was announced by Garber.

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by Scott Kessler on Jan 12, 2012 12:30 PM EST reply actions  

DC United trades the seventh overall pick in the 2012 MLS SuperDraft for a DC located stadium.

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by Scott Kessler on Jan 12, 2012 12:34 PM EST reply actions  

Divided on the clock

hope they pick as well as they play

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by Talon Talent on Jan 12, 2012 12:34 PM EST reply actions  

Chandler to DCU?

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by Scott Kessler on Jan 12, 2012 12:34 PM EST reply actions  

Nick DeLeon to DCU.

Surprising.

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by Scott Kessler on Jan 12, 2012 12:35 PM EST reply actions  

DeLeon to D.C. United

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by Justin F. on Jan 12, 2012 12:35 PM EST reply actions  

Watching those damn sporks fans

makes me want the season to come tomorrow to see Le Toux and Marfan (hopefully) light up their D.

by Fear the RUSH on Jan 12, 2012 12:37 PM EST reply actions  

Portland to take Hedges, I’m thinking. Best CB on the board.

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by Scott Kessler on Jan 12, 2012 12:37 PM EST reply actions  

well at least theTimber fans are trying

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by Talon Talent on Jan 12, 2012 12:37 PM EST reply actions  

Portland takes Andrew Jean-Baptise after saying they didn’t want him.

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by Scott Kessler on Jan 12, 2012 12:40 PM EST reply actions  

physical skills

triumph readiness?

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by Talon Talent on Jan 12, 2012 12:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Awful on the ball.

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by Scott Kessler on Jan 12, 2012 12:44 PM EST up reply actions  

with his selection

They are betting on coaching it seems. Perhaps they feel they have 3 years to be compettitve so get the project now.

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by Talon Talent on Jan 12, 2012 12:46 PM EST up reply actions  

The Fire take Austin Berry. Monster in the air. Off the board before the Union select.

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by Scott Kessler on Jan 12, 2012 12:43 PM EST reply actions  

maybe hedges slips?

please

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by Talon Talent on Jan 12, 2012 12:45 PM EST up reply actions  

The Crew choose Ethan Finlay. Takes away another wide option.

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by Scott Kessler on Jan 12, 2012 12:49 PM EST reply actions  

so unless we

make a signing, I just don’t see Mwanga going anywhere. Unless perhaps Nowak wants to bump up Jack Mac’s time.

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by Talon Talent on Jan 12, 2012 12:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Have to think that Hedges goes to Dallas now, since they’ll be selling George John.

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by Scott Kessler on Jan 12, 2012 12:51 PM EST reply actions  

Or Chandler.

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by Scott Kessler on Jan 12, 2012 12:53 PM EST up reply actions  

and now I'm sad

not really but it sucks he got so close and then goes. What height that woulda been

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by Talon Talent on Jan 12, 2012 12:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Toronto takes Aaron Maund. REAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACH. Huge fricken’ reach.

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by Scott Kessler on Jan 12, 2012 12:56 PM EST reply actions  

ANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

they go to commercial right before our first pick.

by Fear the RUSH on Jan 12, 2012 12:58 PM EST reply actions  

Estridge ready to play at LB or RB right now, Polak a project but high potential LB, Hoffman best FW left, Martinez best MF, Mayer best CB.

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by Scott Kessler on Jan 12, 2012 12:58 PM EST reply actions  

Look, Hoffman shoulda went higher

it would almost be crazy not to get him now

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by Talon Talent on Jan 12, 2012 12:58 PM EST reply actions  

Chandler Hoffman

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by Mitchell Green on Jan 12, 2012 1:00 PM EST reply actions  

Union select..........

Chandler Hoffman.

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by Justin F. on Jan 12, 2012 1:01 PM EST reply actions  

HOFFMAN!!!!!!!!!!!!

seriously how could you pass him up here? Great selection

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by Talon Talent on Jan 12, 2012 1:01 PM EST reply actions  

lol

maybe then we won’t struggle offensivley early

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by Talon Talent on Jan 12, 2012 1:05 PM EST up reply actions  

A guy who was projected as a possible #1 overall? I’LL TAKE THAT!

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by PraiseMartyMoose on Jan 12, 2012 1:05 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Mwanga def gone now?

Picking Hoffman along with all the offseason pick ups is not leaving a lot of room for Danny Mwanga….

by Julian Brown on Jan 12, 2012 1:06 PM EST reply actions  

I'd hate to see him go

but yeah the room available coupled with his salary make it hard to keep him. Guess it depends on what someone is willing to give us. Seems a little crass to trade a first overall selction 2 years after we drafted him but if there’s nothing there to salvage I guess you have to. Personally I hope not as I think he can be special.

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by Talon Talent on Jan 12, 2012 1:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Mwanga had a sophomore slump, I think taking Hoffman essentially sends the message of “If you don’t pick it up this season, we will drop you when you go off Generation Addidas status,” to Mwanga.

by Ascalz on Jan 12, 2012 1:11 PM EST reply actions  

I thought he was

already off GA status

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by Talon Talent on Jan 12, 2012 1:13 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Correct. Mwanga graduated.

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by Justin F. on Jan 12, 2012 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Sorry, brain fart there.

by Ascalz on Jan 12, 2012 1:45 PM EST up reply actions  

He is not a GA player anymore..

and I believe the Union are on the hook for $250k this year for Mwanga… thats an extremely high price for a non-regular starter. I’m guessing he is definitely on his way out the door.. or Jack Mac..

by Domin8ing the Big Ten(11) on Jan 12, 2012 1:16 PM EST up reply actions  

More like $237,000.

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by Scott Kessler on Jan 12, 2012 1:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Which is garbage is my opinion, Danny is great, he had an off sophomore season and that’s okay. Has such potential ahead of him. That wold really be a harsh move for the Union.

by Julian Brown on Jan 12, 2012 1:15 PM EST reply actions  

It's harsh, but

You combine the drop in numbers combined with the rumored attitude problems, factor in the fact that in spite of all the “potential” we have on this team, we want to win now. Its a motivator for the guy – "Play to your potential, or we have your immediate replacement in Hoffman/JackMac ready.

by Fear the RUSH on Jan 12, 2012 1:21 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, it really is. 19 goals in 50 games. Good fit.

by Julian Brown on Jan 12, 2012 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

New Union shortlist:

Chris Estridge, Tyler Polak, Hunter Jumper, Tommy Mayer.

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by Scott Kessler on Jan 12, 2012 1:20 PM EST reply actions  

Can I just say . . .

Somehow, the name “Hunter Jumper” just screams “badass” to me.

by Fear the RUSH on Jan 12, 2012 1:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Yea definitely need a defenseman for depth..

Although I’ve heard there are question marks on all of these guys left, its still 2nd rd. value at this point so its really not costing you too much and depth is depth

by Domin8ing the Big Ten(11) on Jan 12, 2012 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Hoffman being a GA

Should help us out financially for a few years… gotta figure out whats going on with Adu and his salary, Mwanga and his salary.. still don’t get why novak refuses to use the DP, even if for no other reason than to balance the budget for the Cap

by Domin8ing the Big Ten(11) on Jan 12, 2012 1:21 PM EST reply actions  

Dynamo take Colin Rolfe. Decent pick for them, needed a forward.

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by Scott Kessler on Jan 12, 2012 1:22 PM EST reply actions  

Lucky Mkosana and Dom Dwyer...

Are they both still on the board? I thought they were both rated higher than Rolfe on many draft boards…

by Domin8ing the Big Ten(11) on Jan 12, 2012 1:25 PM EST reply actions  

Dwyer is gone.

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by ayydamn on Jan 12, 2012 1:26 PM EST up reply actions  

so he'll sit on the bench

and have MF’s jump him for a starting defensive position if needed?

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by Talon Talent on Jan 12, 2012 1:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Loans?

Is it possible that Mwanga or Jack Mac goes on loan this season to open up that salary cap?

by Joel Prushan on Jan 12, 2012 1:29 PM EST reply actions  

but to who?

Mexican club?

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by Talon Talent on Jan 12, 2012 1:30 PM EST up reply actions  

lets loan him to Harrisburg

help them win a championship but also show him how fickle MLS status can be. reality Check!

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by Talon Talent on Jan 12, 2012 1:32 PM EST up reply actions  

They stay on the cap if loaned out,

according to my league source.

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by Scott Kessler on Jan 12, 2012 1:32 PM EST up reply actions  

either Mexico, Netherlands, or some other northern European countries and if what scott says is true than i guess it isn’t worth it

by Joel Prushan on Jan 12, 2012 1:33 PM EST reply actions  

depends on money received for loan

if they pay salary and give money then it is. However cchances of that are so very slim

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by Talon Talent on Jan 12, 2012 1:34 PM EST up reply actions  

i would be happy if they just played salary

by Joel Prushan on Jan 12, 2012 1:35 PM EST up reply actions  

wow

you really don’t like Mwanga. to each their own I suppose but I think he just needs to be coached up right by both teammates and the coaches. If they can help his attitude and work ethic the sky’s the limit

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by Talon Talent on Jan 12, 2012 1:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I like mwanga

thats why I want him on loan. I think putting him on loan will expose him to new coaches and I know from personal experience that not every coach is good for every player so maybe being exposed to a new coach could help him improve his game

by Joel Prushan on Jan 12, 2012 1:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t think that its people don’t like Mwanga, but there were times during last season when Mwanga simply disappeared. The guy should be young, hungry, trying to score goals. I WANT Mwanga to do good, I want him to do good for us.

However, we’re not totally aware of what goes one behind the scenes. Maybe Mwanga has a horrible attitude, maybe he really was hurt. I hope that he becomes what he was drafted to be, however, the Union are obviously preparing for the eventuality if he continues his slide.

by Ascalz on Jan 12, 2012 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Estridge to Whitecaps.

Polak… and I don’t know.

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by Scott Kessler on Jan 12, 2012 1:47 PM EST reply actions  

Anyone else want to see Le Toux and Marfan in the mid with Torres in the center

Those three moving around with Martinez/Hoffman/Mwanga/JackMac/Paunovic. I would prefer Martinez as the striker then and Mwanga as a holding forward that can play with his front to the goal opposed to his back.
Carroll/Okugo/Gomez-CDM depth
Lopes/Valdes/Califf/Williams.

with Hoffman off the bench primarily as a natural striker might be an option before Paunovic maybe even JackMac. Garfan/Paunovic/Khalfan/Daniel with midfielder bench depth and help for tired legs since Novak loves a rotary midfield it seems.

Get us some tall CBs for defense and this team just keeps getting betters.

I would love a 4-1-3-2 or 4-1-2-1-2 with those players working on possession and attacking sense. Deeper roster WOOT.

by eeyahnn on Jan 12, 2012 1:49 PM EST reply actions  

Le Toux's most valuable

as a forward. we seen that last year

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by Talon Talent on Jan 12, 2012 1:57 PM EST up reply actions  

eh..

only after we shipped out Ruiz we had no scoring. I think using him running around the entire pitch while keeping spots open for more striker and goal threats would make him more valuable. you can always slot paunovic in the center forward playing position allowing more movement up front for le toux since he could move back to le touxs spot. I would love to see Le toux in a full season not needing to be our goal threat.

by eeyahnn on Jan 12, 2012 2:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Tyler Polak now off the board.

I guess that means Hunter Jumper.

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by Scott Kessler on Jan 12, 2012 1:50 PM EST reply actions  

Lucky gets taken.

Hunter Jumper still available.

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by Scott Kessler on Jan 12, 2012 1:54 PM EST reply actions  

anyone else think montreal’s pick callum mallace sounds like some sort of movie character?

by Joel Prushan on Jan 12, 2012 1:56 PM EST reply actions  

Rethinking this situation...

Hunter Jumper vs Gienir Garcia: I’m taking Garcia.

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by Scott Kessler on Jan 12, 2012 1:58 PM EST reply actions  

this sucks

going to espn 3. That’s kinda weak. For “best of Mike and Mike”? really?

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by Talon Talent on Jan 12, 2012 2:00 PM EST reply actions  

I can’t even find it on espn3.

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by Justin F. on Jan 12, 2012 2:04 PM EST up reply actions  

it's on now

delayed is all

"I will never have my best season," Brian Dawkins

"Sometimes you have to kill the one you are with so you can be with someone better" William Shakespeare

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by Talon Talent on Jan 12, 2012 2:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Honestly, not much more to see after the first round…

by Julian Brown on Jan 12, 2012 2:01 PM EST reply actions  

false

great teams are built with the value of their later picks.

"I will never have my best season," Brian Dawkins

"Sometimes you have to kill the one you are with so you can be with someone better" William Shakespeare

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by Talon Talent on Jan 12, 2012 2:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Video back too.

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by Scott Kessler on Jan 12, 2012 2:09 PM EST up reply actions  

lol

Alexi and taylor just ambushing Marsh about Ching

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by Talon Talent on Jan 12, 2012 2:13 PM EST reply actions  

Jumper Gone

who do we have left scott?

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"Sometimes you have to kill the one you are with so you can be with someone better" William Shakespeare

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by Talon Talent on Jan 12, 2012 2:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Hunter Jumper now gone.

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by Scott Kessler on Jan 12, 2012 2:17 PM EST reply actions  

And Hunter Jumper is off the board. So much for the best name in the draft being on the Union.

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by Justin F. on Jan 12, 2012 2:18 PM EST reply actions  

Stefan Antonijevic is the only CB I have left on my mind.

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by Scott Kessler on Jan 12, 2012 2:20 PM EST reply actions  

I was making lunch

I guess I missed Garcia going?

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by Talon Talent on Jan 12, 2012 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Garcia is an international slot.

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by Scott Kessler on Jan 12, 2012 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

scott what do you think of adam rose?

by Joel Prushan on Jan 12, 2012 2:25 PM EST reply actions  

Haven't even heard of him, tbh.

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by Scott Kessler on Jan 12, 2012 2:28 PM EST up reply actions  

ok i heard his name floating around as a potential CB on the mls website chat

by Joel Prushan on Jan 12, 2012 2:28 PM EST reply actions  

Stefan Antonijevic

6’6"

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by Scott Kessler on Jan 12, 2012 2:32 PM EST reply actions  

looks like

Brian Carrol lite

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by Talon Talent on Jan 12, 2012 2:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Union select

Greg Jordan from Creighton.

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by Justin F. on Jan 12, 2012 2:33 PM EST reply actions  

well martinez and okugo will both be on international duty so…

by Joel Prushan on Jan 12, 2012 2:35 PM EST reply actions  

Perhaps preparing

for the departure/retirement of Brian carroll. Stockpiling depth right now

"I will never have my best season," Brian Dawkins

"Sometimes you have to kill the one you are with so you can be with someone better" William Shakespeare

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by Talon Talent on Jan 12, 2012 2:35 PM EST reply actions  

Adrian Healey just asked Dominic Kinnear if he had any plans for a DP.

I may never sleep again.

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by Justin F. on Jan 12, 2012 2:39 PM EST reply actions  

lmfao

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"Sometimes you have to kill the one you are with so you can be with someone better" William Shakespeare

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by Talon Talent on Jan 12, 2012 2:41 PM EST up reply actions  

And now we see why MacMath was scooped up by Union last year..

No one knows anything about these keepers, nor are they thrilled with them.. never know when another good keeper will come along in a draft

by Domin8ing the Big Ten(11) on Jan 12, 2012 2:40 PM EST reply actions  

Dooping Time again!

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by Talon Talent on Jan 12, 2012 2:45 PM EST reply actions  

Maybe

they are calling JDG and Migz key losses because they open up spots for quality players, key to winning

"I will never have my best season," Brian Dawkins

"Sometimes you have to kill the one you are with so you can be with someone better" William Shakespeare

"Nothing shows true love like delivering 16 stab wounds to the jugular" Henry Kissinger

by Talon Talent on Jan 12, 2012 2:47 PM EST reply actions  

Union select.....

Raymon Gaddis

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by Justin F. on Jan 12, 2012 2:47 PM EST reply actions  

Union pick

Raymond Gaddis – D

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by Mitchell Green on Jan 12, 2012 2:47 PM EST reply actions  

There's some D...

no picture though

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by Talon Talent on Jan 12, 2012 2:48 PM EST reply actions  

He’s small. Wing back. Probably has speed, I assume

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by Mitchell Green on Jan 12, 2012 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Raymon Gaddis.

Union just took the best RB in the draft.

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by Scott Kessler on Jan 12, 2012 2:48 PM EST reply actions  

can he make the switch?

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"Sometimes you have to kill the one you are with so you can be with someone better" William Shakespeare

"Nothing shows true love like delivering 16 stab wounds to the jugular" Henry Kissinger

by Talon Talent on Jan 12, 2012 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Ives Galarcep: Ray Gaddis to Philadelphia. Great pick
Ives Galarcep: He was on my Big Board and I had him as high as my Top 25 to start the college season.
Ives Galarcep: Gaddis wasn’t invited to the Combine, which I called a joke before, during and after the Combine

Sounds like he might have flown under some less prepared teams’ radars.

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by OctaShields on Jan 12, 2012 2:54 PM EST up reply actions  

They picked him quickly...

Played for Reading so they probably already know what they’re getting in him… 5’9" isn’t gonna help the D much though lol

by Domin8ing the Big Ten(11) on Jan 12, 2012 2:49 PM EST reply actions  

How tall is Cannavaro?

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by OctaShields on Jan 12, 2012 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

5’9" is fine size for a fullback. He’s cover for Williams, either with the olympics or on a potential transfer to Europe.

by danielfarrell on Jan 12, 2012 2:58 PM EST up reply actions  

most likely cover for williams while he is in olympic qualifying

by dangeroo on Jan 12, 2012 2:49 PM EST reply actions  

Did a little research on Greg Jordan:
2009 (Sophomore) – Suffered a torn anterior cruciate ligament (ACL) against No. 23 Cal Poly on Sept. 5, forcing him to miss the remainder of the season … Awarded a medical redshirt for the season.

Hopefully this doesn’t become a recurring issue.

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by Mitchell Green on Jan 12, 2012 3:10 PM EST reply actions  

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