The Impact Of Carlos Ruiz
[Editor's note: Quality fanpost, though it does leave out Harvey's impact a bit too much - check out the comments for additional information on him and the defense. Front page'd]
Faryd Mondragon. Carlos Valdes. Brian Carroll. Carlos Ruiz.
These were the Union’s four biggest offseason acquisitions. The first three have played almost every minute of every game, providing stability in the back. They are well-respected and well-liked. Carlos Ruiz? Well, I think "polarizing" would be a good word. Unlike the other three, he hasn’t played nearly as consistently, as he missed games early in the season due to the Gold Cup and has missed games more recently due to not being on the team. My friend and I were curious as to how the Union played with and without him, so we did a bit of stat-gathering.
Ruiz Minutes: 1144
Non-Ruiz Minutes: 1016
Initially, we looked at how many goals were scored with Ruiz on and off the pitch.
Goals - Ruiz on pitch: 14, 1 goal /82 minutes
Goals - Ruiz off pitch: 16, 1 goal/63.5 minutes
This looks like a fairly big disparity. However, 6 of the 16 goals came in the single game against Toronto. Treat that how you will. Regardless, it is pretty clear that the Union were at least slightly to noticeably better offensively when Ruiz wasn’t on the pitch.
Next, we took a look at points earned in all games Ruiz played vs. games Ruiz didn’t play.
Points - Ruiz played: 14 gp, 25 pts, 1.8ppg
Points - Ruiz didn’t play: 10 gp, 9 pts, .9ppg
Well then. The Union have been twice as good this season when Ruiz has stepped on the pitch for any amount of time. This struck us both as quite strange, as the Union were a worse offensive team with Ruiz playing. Naturally, we then took a look at goals allowed with Ruiz on the field.
GA – Ruiz on pitch: 8, 1 ga/143 minutes
GA – Ruiz off pitch: 16, 1 ga/63.5 minutes
We were speechless. The Union allowed less than half as many goals with Ruiz on the field as they did with him off it. And the results reflect these numbers almost perfectly. Without Ruiz, the Union score and allow goals at exactly the same rate, and they’re just under 1 PPG in games without him. When Ruiz is playing, they score 1.75 goals for every goal allowed, and have 1.8 PPG to show for it.
For reference, last season, the Union allowed 49 goals in 30 games, a rate of 1 goal/55 minutes. In the 7 games Knighton started and went 90 minutes (who else had forgotten about his red in his first start?), the Union allowed 1 goal/78.75 minutes, including allowing 4 goals in one game.
Before we jumped to any conclusions (such as "Carlos Ruiz is the greatest defensive player ever!"), we decided to rule out a couple explanations that immediately came to mind. The first was Jordan Harvey. We have allowed more goals recently, and maybe this big difference has more to do with Harvey than Ruiz. After all, Harvey IS a defender.
GA – Harvey on pitch: 1241 mp, 13 ga, 1 ga/95.5 minutes
GA – Harvey off pitch: 919 mp, 11 ga, 1 ga/83.5 minutes
Certainly some difference, but nowhere near as large as the Ruiz gap, and much of the difference there comes from the past 5 games, when Ruiz was also absent. Given the statistical evidence, it appears that losing Jordan Harvey is not the reason for Ruiz’s numbers.
Next, we decided to just see if it was an effect of the Union simply playing worse D lately. After all, it seems the D hasn’t quite been as sharp. So we took pieces of the season.
First 10 games (pre-Gold Cup):
GA - With Ruiz – 801 minutes, 4 ga, 1 ga/200.25 minutes
GA - Without Ruiz – 99 minutes, 3 ga, 1ga/33 minutes
Okay. Well, our defense was actually absolutely pitiful without Ruiz early in the season. But 99 minutes is a small sample size.
Let’s check the 4 Gold Cup games sans Ruiz:
GA – Without Ruiz – 360 minutes, 5 ga, 1 ga/72 minutes
Okay, so we were actually pretty poor defensively then too. Worse than we were when Knighton was starting at the end of last season.
Now, the last 5 games we’ve played:
GA – Without Ruiz – 450 minutes, 8 ga, 1ga/56.25 minutes
Hey, we’re back in Seitz-era territory! Whelp.
So, the Union have actually been very poor defensively all season when Ruiz has not been on the pitch. No better than we were last season. There was one brief stretch in which the Union played better offense and worse defense with Ruiz on the pitch (vs. Chivas/@ DC), when they scored 5 goals and allowed 4 in 180 minutes, but this appears to just be a brief aberration to both goals scored and goals allowed.
At this point, I am willing to say that the Union’s defensive resurgence for most of the season is owed to none other than the Little Fish, Carlos Ruiz. Maybe I’m missing something obvious. But with over 1000 minutes on both sides and the consistency throughout the season, it’s hard to call it simply coincidence. While accolades have been thrown at Mondragon, Valdes, and Carroll for organizing the defense and bringing a physical presence, it appears that their additions to the team (and MOF and Knighton’s subtractions) have had very little effect on the team. If somebody has a postulation as to some other factor beyond pure coincidence or small sample size, and wants us to do some statgathering, I will certainly do my best to oblige.
So, why exactly were the Union so much more successful defensively with Ruiz on the field? Put simply, given the numbers and stats available to us, it’s impossible to say. We have correlation, not causation. I will, however, guess at a few possible factors:
1. Formations and responsibilities were changed. Maybe Le Toux got back a little more when playing next to Ruiz, or other player(s) paid more attention to their defensive roles.
2. The Union were less likely to give away the ball in bad positions. Maybe they didn’t try certain passes or plays, or maybe Ruiz just had better ball control, or any number of other reasons. But maybe the ball was given away less in positions where the Union were caught out of position.
3. Carlos Ruiz contributed significantly on defense. I think a few people just threw up in their mouths. Sorry about that. A striker generally doesn’t have huge defensive responsibilities, but if he disrupted the opponent’s attack at the start of the buildup, it could have had a big impact. I also noticed him helping in the box on set pieces.
Again, these are simply possibilities. I make no judgment as to which, if any, are true. But I will confidently assert that the Union are not improved defensively from last season. They’re just a Little Fish out of water. For the sake of the season, let’s hope they figure something out.
The data can be found at: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AocwK2lSF4h-dGFpSFl3VXowNE5jZ1J5YmZrbmh6Mmc&hl=en_US#gid=0
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Quality fanpost, actually stole an article I've been writing. However...
You downplay the loss of Harvey way too much.
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I'm curious
Make the argument for him. I couldn’t find anything substantial throughout the season to point to Harvey being a huge factor. Also, could you take that comment out of your intro? I tried to make this post as objective as possible by not making any judgments without providing stats.
I’m glad you like it, and thanks for the front page.
Following stats are based on first 22 games played.
Harvey:
Eight goals let up (team), six games, 1.33 goals per game (1-2-4 since the trade – 1 ppg); 15 goals let up (team), 16 games played, 0.94 goals per game; Nine goals let up (team), eight games played, 1.125 goals per game (without Harvey in line up all season).
That means that since the trade the team is letting up 0.39 goals per game more, or 8.58 more goals for the rest of the year (12 × 0.39). The more important stat is that the team is letting up .185 goals more per game when Harvey isn’t in the line up (previous to and post trade). That comes out to 2.22 goals for the year.
Ruiz:
Six goals scored (team), six games, 1 goal per game (0-1-3 since the transfer – 0.75 ppg); 16 goals scored (team), 14 games played, 1.14 goals per game; 16 goals scored, 10 games played, 1.6 goals per game (without Ruiz in line up all season)* *10 goals scored, 9 games played, 1.11 goals per game (excluding the Toronto game – 6:2)
Since Ruiz, the goals scored are down 0.39 goals per game, which comes out to negative 8.58 goals extra for the year. That’s equal to the amount to what Harvey’s loss has meant in post-trade/transfer versus time played on the team.
However, in the games without Ruiz in the line up all season (including post transfer) the Union have scored 1.6 GPG, or 1.11 GPG if you remove the Toronto game. That comes out to the following two results: +5.52 goals for the year (with Toronto) and -0.36 goals for the season.
Either way you look at it, Harvey’s impact is every so slightly more felt. Together the two are causing major problems for the team, which is the concern here.
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"College is only 4 years, but the Eagles are for life." - Ironhank
by Scott Kessler on Aug 25, 2011 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Okay, now I’m confused. mk’s stats seem to indicate that, as far as Harvey being on the field, the Union have scored 13 goals with Harvey on the field and allowed 13, while they have scored 17 while he was off the field and have allowed 12. This seems to indicate that they’re actually better when Harvey’s off the field. You’re saying that’s not true. Also, your analysis is looking at Harvey’s effect on defense vs. Ruiz’s effect on offense. My whole argument was that Harvey hasn’t had much of an effect on defense (the same conclusion mk’s numbers support) while Ruiz has. Basically, we’re much slightly worse offensively with Ruiz, but MUCH better defensively with him.
I talked to my stat partner. We’re hoping to get a Harvey spreadsheet put together by tomorrow. I’ll post findings when they’re done. We don’t use per game numbers, we use per minute numbers, because, as mk’s numbers (and our numbers for Ruiz) show, a lot can happen when a player isn’t on the field, even if he started the game
His stats are different because his approach is different.
I chose to ignore minutes and just take stats based on what games they were in.
Also, my numbers may be wrong because I’m bad at math.
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by Scott Kessler on Aug 25, 2011 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
With Harvey: 16 games played, 7-3-6 record for 27pts, 21 goals for (13 while on the field), 16 goals against (13 while on the field), 5 shutouts
Without Harvey: 8 games played*, 1-3-4 record for 7pts, 9 goals for, 9 goals against, 2 shutouts
*includes Portland match missed due to red card suspension
I’m not sure we can say either player was fully responsible for the form early in the season or the current lack of form… but the results since July 2nd (the last time both players saw the field together – Ruiz played 70 minutes in one game after that) have taken a turn.
MK
Slight adjustment & some more thoughts...
I was staring at student data all day and my brain is a bit fried – noticed my goals against total was 25 and they’ve only allowed 24. It should be 15 goals against in Harvey games (still 13 against while he was playing).
Some of the circumstances behind stats for both players could make a difference too. Harvey was usually Nowak’s guy to pull when the team fell behind, looked flat, or needed an extra edge in the attack. Sheanon Williams made himself too hard to pull from a game, so Jordan was the expendable piece. As a result, he wasn’t on the field for several late-game winners… but you could argue that he helped to keep the game close.
On the other hand, Harvey generally remained in the game when they already held a lead. No team has scored more than 2 goals on the team this season and the Union only lost 2 games when Jordan went full 90. Did they win because he was on the whole time? Or did he stay on the whole time because they were winning?
In the first home game vs Vancouver, Eric Hassli was sent off in the 57th minute and Nowak saw an opportunity to push the issue. McInerney came on for Harvey and Torres replaced Nakazawa in the 67th… adding two offensive players to an attack that already boasted Ruiz, Mwanga, and Le Toux against a 10-man expansion side on the road in their 2nd league game ever. 10 minutes later, Ruiz tapped home the winner. Half of Ruiz’s goals came after a similar offense-for-defense substitution. Would he have been as successful if he were surrounded on the field with players in a defensive mentality for longer stretches of time?
I think losing both players (a reliable defensive player on a highly successful defensive team and a guy who defies logic and finds ways to score goals) in quick succession and not directly replacing them took some of the wind out of the Union sails. Gabe Farfan has done an admirable job stepping in, but can the team compete long term with such a shallow defensive depth chart? They lead the league in number of different players scoring for the team… can any of them score week-in and week-out? Only 21 days remain until the roster freeze, and I think the U needs to secure a player through trade or free agency to fill both roles if they really have playoffs on the mind.
MK
I agree... sort of
I agree with Scott that the loss of Harvey is downplayed a bit here, however, I think the loss of Ruiz is understated by the majority of the fans. I made a point to watch him when he wasn’t on the ball, and true to what everyone said, he just stood there covering a small area. But then I noticed something no one seemed to mention: Ruiz was constantly pointing out runs (both his own and other players) to his teammates. The problem – nobody was listening. I’d watch player after player ignore Ruiz, only to needlessly, and often times clumsily, turn over the ball. Needless to say it was frustrating as hell, and Ruiz was noticeably frustrated by it too.
Do I think Ruiz was the answer to the Union’s problems? Probably not, but when people bitch about the chemistry of players, I think it’s unfair to chastise a guy who was with the team less than half a season. Do I think he was he lazy? Eh, maybe, but he wasn’t brought in to be a work horse like Le Toux, running around the pitch like a Jack Russell on crack, Ruiz was brought in to score goals – he’s a goal poacher – he knew where to be and when to be there. Now when I watch a ball roll past the far post or second and third balls bounce around the box, I think to myself, “Ruiz would have had that.”
I have wondered about this whether Ruiz was sort of a “field marshall” from the opponents side of field and helped to organize players. I’m skeptical that would have such a great impact on defense, but I guess it’s possible.
I tend to think that if there is something real here it probably has to do with the idea that other players played more defensive roles (or stayed back more) with Ruiz in there because they had him up top being a target. Now, without a clear “go to” guy offensive, maybe the players are tending to creep up forward and being caught defensively.
the true story
i just wish i knew the true story with Carlos Ruiz – and i am sure that no one knows it but Ruiz!
i have heard so much about him and why he was here. i guess that the last thing i heard was that he never wanted to play in the MLS again – he wanted to play in mexico but their window wasn’t open so he signed with the Union to get into shape to play in mexico when their window opened – and this makes perfect sense when you see how his game changed and how he looked to be in better shape after the Gold Cup. when he came back he was in better shape and was more active on the field.
that being said – i think that Ruiz does get a raw deal from fans. he is a sniper and he was brought in to score goals and not be another Le Toux – and yes as stated above – he was always pointing out runs and was ignored by his teammates.
if Ruiz had 10 goals instead of 6 the fans of the U wouldn’t be as against him as they are.
no – i don;t think he was a perfect player – and i think that selling hm off and getting Valdez outright was a trade in the Unions favor – there is no doubt that this team still needs a scorer.
also – didn’t Nowak say at the Fan Summit that they played more close to the vest eariler in the season and now he has opened it up abit?
Two things that came to my mind:
1. Ruiz has a reputation as a goal scorer, and that would get opposing teams to play a little more defensively when he was in there. If teams were hanging back a little more that could account for some of it.
2. Fatigue is an x-factor. Our defense has logged a lot of minutes this year, some of our decline can be attributed to that.
Did either of you factor in strength of schedule? I was going to try, but Excel was being a dick and I got fed up.
Very rough calculations don’t show any difference in schedule strength between games Ruiz played and those he did not. In games in which Ruiz played more than one half*, the Union played teams that have scored on average 32.8 goals on the season and have 33.4 points on the season. In games in which Ruiz did not play, the Union played opponents with an average of 31.1 goals on the season and with 32.6 points.
I know there are oodles of problems with these numbers—I did not subtract the goals scored/points obtained against the Union, GPG/PPG would be better than goal and point totals, I don’t account for whether Ruiz was on when the goal was scored, etc. However, it does not appear the Union faced an easier schedule or lower-scoring opponents when Ruiz was playing.
Home field advantage, however, may be part of the story for the Union’s improved defense with Ruiz on the field. Of the 13 games in which Ruiz played more than a half, 8 were at PPL Park. Of the 10 games in which Ruiz did not play, only 4 were at home.
Obviously I can’t show that Ruiz DIDN’T help the Union’s defense, but I’m not sure we have enough data to show that he did. Either way, I’m enjoying the discussion. Thanks for posting the article.
*I did not include the May 14 game at Dallas where Ruiz came on at halftime compiling my numbers since I wasn’t sure how treat it.
The spreadsheet is now updated with Harvey’s numbers. You can find them tabbed at the bottom. It appears that the Union were considerably better in the standings in games Harvey played, but both Philly and Vancouver had a better +/- when Harvey wasn’t on the field for them. Draw your own conclusions.

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