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Looking At Potential Philadelphia Union Signings And Transfer Targets

CAPE TOWN, SOUTH AFRICA - JUNE 11: Nicolas Anelka of France gestures in frustration during the 2010 FIFA World Cup South Africa Group A match between Uruguay and France at Green Point Stadium on June 11, 2010 in Cape Town, South Africa.  (Photo by Laurence Griffiths/Getty Images)

The loss of Justin Mapp in the expansion draft to me wasn't a huge loss, Mapp is replaceable by younger talent, however, the Union regardless have positions that they need to fill over the off-season. The Union (and MLS in general) have been linked to several high profile names in other soccer leagues around the world. I figured I might as well break down a few of the names that have more specifically linked to the Union.

Now, recent reports have linked both Michael Thurk and Alessandro Del Piero with moves to the MLS, even more specifically, Thurk specifically has been linked to the Philadelphia Union. While Del Piero has been considered for a move to MLS and hasn't been specifically linked to the Union (yet). I however decided to step in and be the voice of sanity for a moment here.

First of all, I need to clear up something, I have nothing against the Union signing players with good pedigrees and some experience under their belt. However, Thurk and Del Piero?

Imagine if we were talking face to face and me going, "Ehhhhhh" as I waggle one of my hands up and down.

Thats how I feel about both players. But let's break them down individually and determine if they should be signed. We'll also look at other potential players that the Union have been linked with and examine them too.

Star-divide

Alessandro Del Piero

Let's get something straight, Del Piero is a Juventus legend. The guy has been with the club since 1993 an incredible amount of longevity for modern day soccer clubs. In that time period he has made 686 appearances and scored 285 goals. He was on the World Cup winning Italian Squad from 2006 as well as having been with Juventus when they've won Serie A and Serie B. The guy is simply put a winner, he has won virtually every major sporting competition that he's been a part of. In terms of history, you can't ask for a better guy.

But that is just what it is, history.

Del Piero turned 37 this month, but let's be realistic, the Union need a player that can give them some of the best years of his career. Del Piero more than likely won't be hanging in there for much longer. Bringing in Del Piero would help further the image of the MLS (to some) as a "retirement" league, a label that it's been slowly emerging from over the past few years.

Furthermore, I don't think that Del Piero has much in the tank, he has appeared only 9 times for Juventus in the current season and scored 0 goals. In the 2009-10 season, Del Piero appeared 29 times and scored 11 goals. Pretty good numbers, however, in the 2010-11 season, he appeared 45 times and scored 11 goals again. A bit of a drop since his appearances rose.

Look, I'm not bagging on Del Piero, but I truly think that the guy should just retire after this season, you have a legacy at a club, a World Cup championship, a UEFA Championship, multiple awards and records. There is nothing else that Del Piero should be trying to prove. The only reason he might try to keep playing is to show that Juventus was wrong when they said that they basically wouldn't resign him after the current season. I'm sorry but the amount of money that Del Piero would command (most likely DP salary range) is just not worth the risk involved.

If Del Piero were three years younger, I'd say the Union should give him a try for a year, but I just don't think theres anything there.

Verdict: Pass

Michael Thurk

Thurk is an interesting case, he'll turn 36 this coming May and you could argue much like Del Piero that he doesn't have much left in the tank and you'd have a decent argument. In the season before FC Augsburg's promotion to the Bundesliga, Thurk scored 9 goals in 26 appearances, not too bad admittedly. However, he had a monster season in the 2009-10 season when he scored 23 goals in 30 appearances. The season before that he scored he had 14 goals in 32 appearances.

Thurk could be a decent pickup if we could get him for the right price. He hasn't had the wear and tear of a Bundesliga season since FC Augsburg has pretty much indefinately suspended him (the official reason being that they went from a 4-4-2 formation to a 4-5-1 which means Thurk was left out). Thurk has stated he wants to move to the MLS and he could have a fire to prove his old club wrong.

I personally think that Thurk could have one or maybe two good years in him, but I wouldn't break the bank for him. He could be a good veteran option but nothing to build our franchise around.

Verdict: Only if the price is right and even then not for more than a year or two.

Nicolas Anelka

Though Anelka has denied leaving Chlesea recently I decided I'd cover him as well. First of all, Anelka is 32, so he still has some good play left in him. He's played for Chelsea, Real Madrid, Arsenal, Manchester City. Played in big matches for big clubs? Check.

However, what must not be overlooked is that Anelka's international career is over, and not because he got bumped out by younger players, but because he got into an argument with the French National team coach during the 2010 World Cup. France's forgettable "run" during the last World Cup was highlighted by Anelka being dismissed from the team during the World Cup.

Now people want to bring him to Philadelphia.

Yikes.

Look, I'm not bagging on Anelka as a player, the guy is talented and has had a solid career. However, he has a very clear history of having problems with coaches and authority.

Read this article which pretty much breaks down Anelka's problems he's had at virtually every stop in his career. Now imagine how he'd fare the moment the crowd in Philly might have questioned his play a la Carlos Ruiz, you honestly think that Anelka would respond well to that? Do you think that Nowak who has what I've heard as an abrasive, controlling style of coaching would mesh well with Anelka?

Probably not.

Anelka would also command a high salary, and he might indeed be worth it. However, I think that he wouldn't last long in front of Philly fans. We're not exactly the most forgiving lot for players (in any sport) that we consider "Prima Donnas" look at how Eagles fans are now turning on DeSean "Wide Receivers are supposed to catch the ball?" Jackson, despite the fact that he's considered one of the most explosive wide receivers in the NFL.

Sorry Nicolas, it isn't that your not a good enough player, its just that you can't handle us.

Verdict: Pass

Kepa Blanco Gonzalez

As Scott Kessler wrote the Union have reportedly put in a bid for Blanco along with a few other clubs.

I decided to look up Blanco and see what was "under the hood" so to speak. The stats are...ehhh.

First of all, Blanco will turn 28 this January. Since 2010 the club he has been with, Spanish team Real Club Recreativo de Huelva, S.A.D. and during that time has made 19 appearances and scored 2 goals. Before that he played for another Spanish team called Getafe Club de Fútbol from 2007-2010, during that time he made 24 appearances and scored 2 goals as well.

See what I'm getting at? The guy has gotten chances to make an impact but hasn't delivered. Now, I'll be the first to admit that stats aren't everything. That intangible things like leadership, ball service, shot placement, etc aren't really reflected in stats. But since I've never seen Blanco play, I can't go off any of that. He could blow up the league and score 30 goals in his first season with the Union, or maybe he could just fizzle out and not do anything like so many other players have.

However, I'm willing to give Blanco a chance if the Union do pick him up, much like Thurk I believe he should be grabbed for only the right price. His age means that he'll be less of an issue for sudden drop in play due to wear and tear after years of playing (see Del Piero and Thurk).

Verdict: Only for the right price

Josué Martinez Areas

The Union originally had a bid rejected by Saprissa for Martinez during the last season. Apparently the Union offered a cool $1 Million for him and were rejected because Saprissa wanted more and that seemed the end of that. However, the Union have apparently bid again for the young striker.

Martinez's price has dropped, ironically enough the Union apparently won a bidding war against Fredrikstad who apparently said the equivalent of "Too rich for our blood."

The bidding of course was around $500,000.

Yes, you read that right, apparently the bid for Martinez was half of what the Union initially offered.

But is Martinez all that and a bag of chips? Lets have a look.

In his current season with Saprissa and using this site, Martinez has made 65 appearances for his club Deportivo Saprissa and scored 18 goals.

Not bad, but not exactly world class.

Looking at Martinez on the international stage, in 24 appearances for the Costa Rica National Team (including U-20 & U-23 teams), he has 7 goals. Once again decent, but not world class. For comparison, Martinez's goals per game on the international scene is 1 goal every 3.42 games while David Villa probably one of the best strikers in the world right now has an incredible 1 goal every 1.60 games. So Martinez is by no means "bad" but hes certainly not in the upper echelon of the world class players.

However, Martinez has youth on his side, he'll only turn 22 in March of next year, potentially his best years are in front of him.

Now true, Danny Mwanga and Jack McInerney are both younger than Martinez, however, Martinez has the bonus of having played on the senior roster for his country, he's been to the Gold Cup, he's been in the Copa América, he even played for Saprissa in the CONCACAF Champions League. The guy has been in some big games. Mwanga and McInerney haven't, not yet at least.

Its no secret that Mwanga wanted to go to Europe after college and Nowak talked him into going into the MLS Draft, promising that he would be taken first. His rookie season he seemed to be on the way to becoming the star that he dreamed he would be. But that came crashing down last season with poor form and "injuries" limiting Mwanga's time on the field. But, this upcoming season will help determine whether or not Mwanga had a sophomore slump or if its something more permanent. Singing Martinez could also be insurance in case Sebastien Le Toux ever gets hurt.

Look, I love our Frenchman. But the fact remains that the Union got incredibly lucky last year when it came to injuries. Le Toux has literally put the team on his shoulders, two seasons running. The guy has pretty much secured his status as a Union legend. But we can't rely on Le Toux always being healthy, Martinez could push Mwanga to either do better or be strictly used as a super sub. He could also serve as insurance in case Le Toux ever gets hurt.

If we can get him for less than we originally bid for him, then I say get him. If the Union valued him at upwards of a $1 Million, they should jump at the chance to grab him for a "mere" $500,000.

Verdict: Buy him

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I would have to agree with pretty much everything this article says. There is no point in grabbing older players for a ton of money, and only having them for a year or two. Sure this might help the union for a season, but in the long run it only hurts their development. I would rather see the money spent on a younger player who can be with the Union for more than a season or two. I am not against signing a big name, but I would rather it be when they are at an age to come and make a difference for five or more years, not two.

by UnionFan11 on Dec 5, 2011 10:18 AM EST reply actions  

I don’t neccesarily think that signing a goal scoring veteran for a season or two impedes development of other players. In some cases it may help. At the end of the day, I don’t care if some one is 16 or 36, playing for 40k or 4 million, I just want to see the team win!

In all fairness, i can’t judge any of the potential targets because I’d be lying to you if i said I’ve seen them play (aside from Delpiero). I honestly don’t watch the German and Spanish second leagues.

But I never heard of old serb, and he was, well, old. But he was one of the best players for the U when on the pitch. As long as they continue to improve the product, the direction they take to make those improvements are of no concern to me ;-)

by dangeroo on Dec 5, 2011 11:17 AM EST up reply actions  

No one had seen Old Serb in three years...

so you weren’t the only one questioning his signing (aka, me as well).

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by Scott Kessler on Dec 5, 2011 11:52 AM EST up reply actions  

I definately questioned it at the time, but he turned out pretty good.

All in all the front office seems to know what they are doing, they’ve completely turned the roster over from the expansion draft and have done pretty well in the draft (i’m willing to forget about Toni Stahl)

They’ve done very well in bringing non-mls players onto the roster (Fayrd, Valdes, Torres, Garfan, Daniel, Old Serb, Ruiz to a point and we won’t bring up JDG).

So i will continue to be comfortable in the fact that they know more then I do. I won’t place judgment on their signing based on experience, age, or salary terms. I’ll wait till Nowak starts screwing with the rotation before i complain, lol.

by dangeroo on Dec 5, 2011 2:29 PM EST up reply actions  

They need to bring in players to execute said rotation.

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by Scott Kessler on Dec 5, 2011 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

true, but

I agree, it is a long season and quite the grind, but the constant rotation has to hurt consistency. It’s not like a player sits, then starts, then sits, etc… but you take Marfan for example, the kid played lb, rb, lm, and rm. I’m surprised they didn’t slap some goalie gloves on him at some point. I understand Nowak’s philosophy of continuously creating competition, but it seemed to go a little to far sometimes.

by dangeroo on Dec 5, 2011 2:39 PM EST up reply actions  

This article states that Martinez played his last match for Saprissa and a move to the union is imminent.

http://www.larepublica.net/app/cms/www/index.php?pk_articulo=5321926

by Rhayes on Dec 5, 2011 10:37 AM EST reply actions  

convey isn't available

Convey was traded to SKC last week. Besides, word is that Convey would pee on Nowak if he was on fire…..

by dangeroo on Dec 5, 2011 11:43 AM EST up reply actions  

typo

that should read “wouldn’t”

by dangeroo on Dec 5, 2011 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Convey wouldn't even pee on him.

That’s how much they hate each other, supposedly.

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by Scott Kessler on Dec 5, 2011 11:52 AM EST up reply actions  

The thing that jumps out to me a littl bit is Martinez’s ability to play “in the hole” as a second striker. When you look at that strike rate, its actually not bad for a withdrawn forward. Lets assume Nowak insists on playing with 2 up top. A high-low with Martinez and LeToux would be a good combination. Too often we play with 2 high strikers (see Mwanga+LeToux) and get little to no service to them. If Nowak wants to go with 5 in the midfield we can play LeToux up high and dual ACM’s of any combination of Paunovic, Adu, and Martinez (love Adu in that role with his ability to make runs from deep lying positions but also distribute…but he needs to get his game straight again).

DelPiero and Thurk are too old. This Blanco guy? I’m not sold but we should probably take him at the right price. What about MLS targets? Jaqua was put on waivers. Maybe pick him up for some height and cover? Convey’s on his way out of SJ, he’s from Philly, and look…we need a left back! You should do an article on possible MLS targets as well.

by pdcjay on Dec 5, 2011 11:30 AM EST reply actions  

Convey was traded to SKC.

And he hates Nowak/vice-versa, so that wasn’t going to happen. Jaqua is an average striker at best and doesn’t play with enough fluidity to complement Le Toux and the midfield.

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by Scott Kessler on Dec 5, 2011 11:55 AM EST up reply actions  

When did that trade happen? I completely missed it! Jaqua hasn’t proven to be anything other then a late game target when you’re down a goal. That’d be the only reason to get him. Any other potential MLS targets? What about Hernandez’s homegrown player designation? I think it’d be fantastic to get him onto the roster full time IMO.

by pdcjay on Dec 5, 2011 12:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Happened last week: http://www.thedailywiz.com/2011/12/3/2607566/the-daily-links-the-bobby-convey-addition

Jaqua: Not really worth his cost if that’s so.

Hernandez: Has stated he wants to go pro, I believe he’s now able to qualify for HGP designation.

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by Scott Kessler on Dec 5, 2011 12:21 PM EST up reply actions  

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